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	<title>Comments on: Just be</title>
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		<title>By: yseult</title>
		<link>http://yseult.mediaevaliter.com/2009/05/27/just-be/comment-page-1/#comment-60940</link>
		<dc:creator>yseult</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 16:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for that comment, Diana. 

Now that you say it, I can completely agree that there is something profoundly &#039;protestant&#039; about the horror of idleness. But as always, when talking about protestantism and mainly also Calvinism, the next step is: success. So indeed... there can be no immaterial success. And that makes success in... just being... or even in the silence or contemplative life rather impossible. 

Funnily enough, I just followed a couple of conferences by Sir Anthony Kenny on Aristotle&#039;s conception of eudaimonia, the good life and... the contemplative life. How about this: without silence, without to unordered and without the un-aimed, there can be no aim, no success and no meaningful word, since it&#039;s through their dichotomies that we even realise their value in the first place. 

Looks utterly platitudinous, I know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for that comment, Diana. </p>
<p>Now that you say it, I can completely agree that there is something profoundly &#8216;protestant&#8217; about the horror of idleness. But as always, when talking about protestantism and mainly also Calvinism, the next step is: success. So indeed&#8230; there can be no immaterial success. And that makes success in&#8230; just being&#8230; or even in the silence or contemplative life rather impossible. </p>
<p>Funnily enough, I just followed a couple of conferences by Sir Anthony Kenny on Aristotle&#8217;s conception of eudaimonia, the good life and&#8230; the contemplative life. How about this: without silence, without to unordered and without the un-aimed, there can be no aim, no success and no meaningful word, since it&#8217;s through their dichotomies that we even realise their value in the first place. </p>
<p>Looks utterly platitudinous, I know.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 10:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This special horror vacui of &#039;useless&#039; time I especially found in friends who grew up in a vivid Protestant environment. As if they could&#039;nt feel the immense sensuality and abundance of just being, without doing anything. One of these friends once said, that he couldn&#039;t waste any minute without doing something useful, without thinking, learning, discussing, without STRUGGLE for knowledge. He hated &#039;idleness&#039;. But, ah, I&#039;m a great idler, I love the special fertility which blooms only in unintentionality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This special horror vacui of &#8216;useless&#8217; time I especially found in friends who grew up in a vivid Protestant environment. As if they could&#8217;nt feel the immense sensuality and abundance of just being, without doing anything. One of these friends once said, that he couldn&#8217;t waste any minute without doing something useful, without thinking, learning, discussing, without STRUGGLE for knowledge. He hated &#8216;idleness&#8217;. But, ah, I&#8217;m a great idler, I love the special fertility which blooms only in unintentionality.</p>
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		<title>By: yseult</title>
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		<dc:creator>yseult</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 11:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but that doesn&#039;t keep me ;-) It&#039;s on my amazon list now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but that doesn&#8217;t keep me <img src='http://yseult.mediaevaliter.com/smilies/yahoo_wink.gif' alt='&#59;&#45;&#41;' class='wp-smiley' width='18' height='18' title='&#59;&#45;&#41;' /> It&#8217;s on my amazon list now.</p>
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		<title>By: RonaldM</title>
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		<dc:creator>RonaldM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 21:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your welcome :-)
Summarizing the book in English is a bit difficult for me. But I can really recommend it, easy reading (at least in dutch). But I am afraid you have a long list of &quot;have to read sometime&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your welcome <img src='http://yseult.mediaevaliter.com/smilies/yahoo_smiley.gif' alt='&#58;&#45;&#41;' class='wp-smiley' width='18' height='18' title='&#58;&#45;&#41;' /><br />
Summarizing the book in English is a bit difficult for me. But I can really recommend it, easy reading (at least in dutch). But I am afraid you have a long list of &#8220;have to read sometime&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: yseult</title>
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		<dc:creator>yseult</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 21:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Ronald. No, I don&#039;t know either the author or the book unfortunately, but it sounds like something I should look into. 
I&#039;m glad you liked it. Of course being together doing things is extremely important, because it&#039;s through the things that we live through together, where we share experiences, that we forge a common story. But I feel that learning to go for the unplanned and the &#039;let&#039;s not do anything&#039; is just as important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Ronald. No, I don&#8217;t know either the author or the book unfortunately, but it sounds like something I should look into.<br />
I&#8217;m glad you liked it. Of course being together doing things is extremely important, because it&#8217;s through the things that we live through together, where we share experiences, that we forge a common story. But I feel that learning to go for the unplanned and the &#8216;let&#8217;s not do anything&#8217; is just as important.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald Marks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronald Marks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 18:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article yseult, thank you for this (and the mobile version).

Just started reading the dutch version of a book from Henri Nouwen, called &quot;REACHING OUT Three Movements of the Spiritual Life&quot; (assignment for Spirituality). Do you know this book? One of the things he writes about is our need to be together to &#039;do things&#039;, us being afraid to be alone and his way to grow in to other ways of being alone and having friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article yseult, thank you for this (and the mobile version).</p>
<p>Just started reading the dutch version of a book from Henri Nouwen, called &#8220;REACHING OUT Three Movements of the Spiritual Life&#8221; (assignment for Spirituality). Do you know this book? One of the things he writes about is our need to be together to &#8216;do things&#8217;, us being afraid to be alone and his way to grow in to other ways of being alone and having friends.</p>
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